POINTS THAT WHITE NATIONALISTS ARE AFRAID TO DISCUSS

FIRST OF ALL READ UPDATE

http://stormfrontpride.blogspot.com/2006/10/future-plans-and-current-judgement.html

The link between racialism and feminity.............

http://stormfrontpride.blogspot.com/2006/09/stormfront-suppresses-debate-linking.html


Majorityrights.com supresses the debate also.....

http://stormfrontpride.blogspot.com/2006/09/majorityrights.html

Europe was founded on masculine competition..........

http://stormfrontpride.blogspot.com/2006/09/europe-was-founded-on-masculine.html


Male Racism is reactive. Feminine racism is based on genetic lineage.


http://stormfrontpride.blogspot.com/2006/09/i-propose-two-distinct-types-of-racism.html

Our planet (earth) picks the dominant race.....

http://stormfrontpride.blogspot.com/2006/09/our-planet-picks-dominant-race.html

Immigration increases human abilites......

http://stormfrontpride.blogspot.com/2006/09/immigration-increases-human-abilites.html

Europe was founded on masculine competition..........


I've already pointed out that some White nationalist writers fabricate and rewrite european history in a manner that most now be very embarrasing.




http://stormfrontpride.blogspot.com/2006/09/immigration-increases-human-abilites.html

White nationalists select greeks and italians as fine for their pagan white gene pool. When in fact it is obvious southern europeans are quite genetically mixed, and were even darker skinned in europe pre-history.

Global Halotype tree

http://www.mcdonald.cam.ac.uk/genetics/images/y_distribution_map.gif

If anything the roman and greek creative tenacity that founded Europe, is in part genetically derived from the hot-blooded behaviour of our middle eastern brethren, combined with a hike in IQ. The greater IQ in southern Europe, Greece and italy may In part also due to epigentic adaptions to diets high in omega 3. That is the land mass in these continents is thin so diets are higher in fish. Other similar thin land mass nations, with good fishing waters : Japan, Nordics and Britain also have experienced similar explosions in intelligence.



All of this can be seen by the y-chromosone haplotype tree. Northern whites and southern europeans had long been on seperate travels genetically at the time when the southern european romans and greeks were developing cilvilisation like crazy. There is a sound argument that the heavy presence of omega 3 in olive oil and roman, greek fish diets facilited the faster mutation of intelligence within greeks and romans. The same genes which mutate to utilize omega 3 for quicker cell membrane re-uptake (IQ related) have been found to have higher degrees of linkage disequilibrium (those genes associated with omega 3 uptake have been found with their counterparts for disease mutations associated with that..link to Ashkenazi IQ) within the high IQ european jewish lines. Not how those jewish diets are higher in fish also.

White nationalism then has a cognitive dissonance between two arguments. The vague part that says they rose to be superior continent because of our genes, and the other one. That southern European genes with higher levels of testosterone derived from the middle east, increased creative drive.

What really happened after the founding of the philosophical, scientific, architectural, artistic, medical, political systems set up by southern Europe, was consolidated in the middle ages, due to the fall of the roman empire. Pagans capitalized, adapted and absorbed a lazy and exhausted PRE_EXISTING european continent that had already been founded on a southern european adaption of middle eastern genes.

How do white nationalists, which originate mainly from northern europe fix the dissonance between this racial purity and genetic inconsistancy with historical reality ? They say the greeks and italians from the ages BC are white, when in fact they were not. They may have a great deal of whites from the middle ages on, when white genes piled in. In reality the genes which founded europe were agressive, tenacious and intelligent all together. When pagans flooded our developmental centres the creative genius we had was diluted from the south to the north.

Basically it is misinformation that following the white racial lines to the nordics leads the best stock. The nordic line is "relatively" more feminine than the greek, roman line. Follow the genetic lines back to the darker southern europeans and you will find the racial basis for a strong blend of male abstract ability and cognitive superiority. This is because high levels of testosterone within a gene pool increase the brains creative abstract ability, and this usually has a downside which can be seen in many africans. Men become lazier and lower in metal energy. However infuse High T lines with IQ mutations which result in mental energy an order of magnitude greater than normal, (such as fish diets which mutate IQ) and suddenly you have male dominated populations with a high creative abstract ability that overides the usual male hormonal drives to lazier basic instincts which come from the limbic system. This is because the development of IQ involves the outer brain cortex more than the hormonally driven inner brain. The outer cortex is an order of magnitude larger than the inner brain.

From my life experience (my father a Sicilian) and the opinion of my italian relatives who actully resided in southern italy, greeks and italians who are darker consider ourselves to be of the original superior genetic stock and even to this day do not want their daughters to marry with "white mongrels".

When genetic decisions are made on erronous and strict rules such as genetic lineage, it creates a population which allows individuals to breed not based on merit such as the gladiator system. This defies mans natural instinct for free competition.

GENETIC RULES

Male genetic lines focus mutation and drive evolution based purely on the y-chromosones limited but uniquely strong genetic mechanism to presever sperm production and testosterone. Apart from skeletal structure there are few genetically transmitted male traits. However testosterone abstracts the pre-existing female gene sets explosively. Male systems operate by men testing each others merit and ability. There is some reverence to racial rules, but at the end of the day the deciding factor is that men have always allowed men of other races to enter competion and prove themselves worthy, if those men convert themselves. Life will not always be easy for those men, but they are given a chance, rather than be cut off by an unshakable genetic rule.

That is close to the blanket way women think. The oft quoted kinship research of Rushton was based on "Female" odour preference, rather than who men pressure their daughters to marry ?

Also interesting is that white nationalists respect the racism of the chinese race. What happens with orientals is that they breed, testosterone (but leave just enought to reproduce) and abstract processing out of brain structure. This develop female lines which recombine on a chop and change rather than conversion basis. Like jews which are also highly racist and develop along maternal descended lines there is similiar correllations. Brain energy mutates at the expense of raw abstract ability. Note how the greatest deal of mortality in chinese and jewish population are brain and nervous related disorders.


Stroke in China, 1986 through 1990.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=7482636&dopt=Abstract

Jewish disorders of the nervous system

http://www.economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=4032638


Just to re-iterate the point in case its not clear. Male genetic lines facilitate conversion of other able males, while female genetic lines chop and change on a purely rule based system. Also known as female logic.

Whites evolved by being a blend of male and female extremes. Plenty of evidence exists. We all know this already..

SO there is absolutely no point in veering of to the female selection methods unless white nationalists want to feminise themselves and in doing so lose their creative abilities.

Rules like. Everybody who is white European, No exceptions are female constructs. People behave like their genetic structures. Racist groups based on eugenics will create female characteristics. These are logic based and tend to create non creative but stable gene pools full of the same errors.

I always wondered why racist thinking was so bitchy.

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Majorityrights.com supressed the debate also.....


Majority rights.com is a white nationalist blog which attracts some hight quality thinkers. I thought I would take my research on racialism and femininity there. My posts are under the name “Italian Stallion”.


http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/early_evidence_that_immigration_may_be_a_major_cause_of_autism/

My research was as well received there as stormfront. However just at the point I was gagged, I got quite an intelligent response by “Rnl”. I’ll post my reply to that here.

By Rnl…

“In other words, in a peaceful society in which women are free to choose mates according to their own inclinations, most will choose men on the basis of some physical resemblance to their fathers. Their choices will therefore be racialist in effect, though not always in intent. For example, they’ll be more likely to choose other Whites as mates and less likely to choose Blacks. On the other hand, in a society in which these natural mates have been removed (killed, perhaps) women will be compelled to accept mates who don’t resemble their fathers. The latter situation is, in your opinion, preferable to the former. Women will no longer have the reproductive upper hand, and that’s good.”

This point is neither good nor bad to me. These are the realities of human systems. I’m only interested in researching that racialism based on appearance and genetic lineage is a feminine trait. Even if it’s men that are promoting it.

Rnl wrote

“Is that a fair summary of your argument? If it is, you must explain how the bad effects of what you regard as the non-optimal mating pattern come about. Why is it bad if women choose their mates according to their own inclinations? By what mechanism are the allegedly bad effects of their ability to choose transmitted to their racial group? Why should I be worried that women, if they are allowed to act on their own inclinations, will choose mates who in some way resemble their fathers?
A program of mass interracial rape would, it’s worth observing, produce the state of sexual politics that the Stallion considers optimal: “When their natural mates are removed through conflict the female is more likely to be dominated and are losing the reproductive hand to the male” (Stallion). “

An example of how white nationalists love to dramatise and twist sanguine research. As a researcher of systems it would be clearly counterproductive, if I had a problem with female behaviour.

Rnl wrote..

Quoting me “If you pursue racialism based on observable genetic qualities the result is an increasing convergence towards a group which exhibits female dominance. “
Again, you have to specify how this occurs. You appear merely to be saying (a) that women are more likely than men to choose mates on the basis of observable genetic qualities and (b) because racialism values observable genetic qualities, just as women do, racialism is feminine, which is bad. If that’s what you’re saying, it can’t be taken seriously. You are invoking “feminine” as though it were stigmatized as a negative cultural trait and then attaching it to racial attitudes that you want Whites to reject, relying on the mistaken assumption that male racialists will repudiate any “feminine” set of political beliefs as a threat to their masculinity. I don’t see how you could mean anything more substantive, because you have provided no explanation that I can discern for how (bad) feminine traits are physically spread throughout a racial group to bring about (bad) feminine effects.”

I’ll address how this feminization occurs clearly at a later stage. Again the point is being twisted. Femininity isn’t bad. I’ll requote some sections of my posts on that thread.

“The male biological system (when it has the upper hand) will tend to dilute, override and diverge from it’s genetic inheritability factor, in spite of all modifications we try to impose by religion, groupthink, racialism, ethnocentrism or whatever. When testosterone is high during child development, it increases right brain dominance. Illness aside, this remains all ones life. Right brain dominance is creative, restless and divergent. As a result its non racial as a human system high in testosterone will spread outwards. Right brain dominance is higher as the testosterone level within the population increases. Put simply Type r populations are right brain dominant. Type K left brain dominant. This is the focus of my research in the area of human systems. Type K population are biased towards femininity. As the K factor increases the femininity increases. Rebound strength decreases. Male fertility decreases, Creativity decreases.”

Following from that I wrote

“the formation of white nationalism has nothing to do with how the white european gene pool succeeded and that the preservation of that, by natural laws of physics is not only impossible but counterproductive. CReative progress cannot be preserved. Preservation destroys male creativity, which occurs by the existence of freedom, conflict, dynamism, promotion of the masculine and mess basically.”

This is the crux of my debate. Not about femininity but that white nationalism prizes it’s creativity over jews and orientals. The most racial groups on the planet. Racialism based on genetic lineage and appearance suppresses masculinity, eventually killing male creativity.



Rnl finished by writing

“At any rate, none of this theorizing of yours has much contact with the real world. In the real world White racialists oppose Third World immigration. We do so for a variety of reasons. Some prefer cultural arguments, others prefer genetic arguments. But the most obvious and by far the most popular argument (really just a fact) is that Third World immigration causes bad effects to Whites as a group. We’re worse off as a result of it. In Europe Muslims blow up trains and demand the imposition of medieval sharia law. In the United States non-Whites are massively overrepresented in crime statistics and both demand and receive racial preferences that penalize Whites. Because the importation of non-Whites causes and exacerbates these (and many other) bad effects, White racialists oppose the importation of non-Whites.
Let’s implausibly stipulate that our opposition to non-White immigration is feminine. Your task, as an advocate of multiracialism, is to prove why we’re wrong, not how we’re feminine.”

White nationalism pre-exists these problems. The rhetoric, the blame finding get replaced over the centuries with whatever ills the world. The racialism is the only thing which stays the same. Not that the issues brought up by white nationalists are real. Just that they are also superficial. They can be dealt with by conventional governments. Racialism leads to race.

Finally more nonsensical accusations from white nationalists. Now I’m an advocate of multiculturism. Well I’m not so I don’t need to answer the challenge posed.

I’ll repeat my point. Racialism leads to femininity which results in the curbing of male creativity. This creativity began and progressed Europe to the prize that they say they can protect.

It’s of no doubt white nationalists are a concerned lot. However the whole idea about preserving their creativity is wrong. I’ll repost more quotes from the post I put on that thread.

Genetic interests are what femininity is about. Note how the Y chromosome is devoid of all genes except for unique focussed mutation mechanisms which preserve male fertility. The male genetic system consists of nothing but an abstract expansion which explodes within the pre-existing female one


“the formation of white nationalism has nothing to do with how the white european gene pool succeeded and that the preservation of that, by natural laws of physics is not only impossible but counterproductive. CReative progress cannot be preserved. Preservation destroys male creativity, which occurs by the existence of freedom, conflict, dynamism, promotion of the masculine and mess basically.”